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	<title>Comments on: Oh Maia Gosh: Why Demian Doesn&#8217;t Deserve His Title Shot</title>
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		<title>By: JRN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JRN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 00:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if Maia did indeed comment afterward that he intended to strike with Marquardt, then that changes everything! Still, the way you wrote it made it sound as if that was something that could be inferred from the 21 seconds of the fight itself. And Maia often sets up clinch or takedown attempts with strikes, so I don't think his merely leading with a kick is indicative of anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if Maia did indeed comment afterward that he intended to strike with Marquardt, then that changes everything! Still, the way you wrote it made it sound as if that was something that could be inferred from the 21 seconds of the fight itself. And Maia often sets up clinch or takedown attempts with strikes, so I don&#8217;t think his merely leading with a kick is indicative of anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Lawton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Lawton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JRN: To the comments about the Triangle-ing - yeah, I need to do more thorough research.

On the Marquardt fight, though, watch how Maia gets caught as he leads in. He's coming in to strike with Marquardt, leaping into a punch rather than a shoot takedown or a clinch attempt. Before the fight, Maia even stated that he thought he'd be able to stand up with Marquardt, if my memory doesn't fail me.

Bryan: Yeah, it'd be fun for Maia to win, but I can't see it happening. I don't think any of us do.

Tommy: We've lost a couple, but for MMA the year ahead is bright: Carwin-Lesnar, Rampage-Rashad, Machida-Rua II, and that's just the UFC. Strikeforce adds Werdum-Fedor and Shields-Henderson. All high profile fights I'd part with money to see, and those are all before the halfway point this year. Boxing's taken the bigger hit in losing Mayweather-Pacqiao, as it just doesn't have the same depth (and promotional reliabilty) that MMA does. I don't have any big boxing fights on my radar atm, but that might just be because it takes a backseat to a variety of other sports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JRN: To the comments about the Triangle-ing - yeah, I need to do more thorough research.</p>
<p>On the Marquardt fight, though, watch how Maia gets caught as he leads in. He&#8217;s coming in to strike with Marquardt, leaping into a punch rather than a shoot takedown or a clinch attempt. Before the fight, Maia even stated that he thought he&#8217;d be able to stand up with Marquardt, if my memory doesn&#8217;t fail me.</p>
<p>Bryan: Yeah, it&#8217;d be fun for Maia to win, but I can&#8217;t see it happening. I don&#8217;t think any of us do.</p>
<p>Tommy: We&#8217;ve lost a couple, but for MMA the year ahead is bright: Carwin-Lesnar, Rampage-Rashad, Machida-Rua II, and that&#8217;s just the UFC. Strikeforce adds Werdum-Fedor and Shields-Henderson. All high profile fights I&#8217;d part with money to see, and those are all before the halfway point this year. Boxing&#8217;s taken the bigger hit in losing Mayweather-Pacqiao, as it just doesn&#8217;t have the same depth (and promotional reliabilty) that MMA does. I don&#8217;t have any big boxing fights on my radar atm, but that might just be because it takes a backseat to a variety of other sports.</p>
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		<title>By: JRN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JRN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a bit confused by your comments about Marquardt fight. One the one hand, it was only 21 seconds long. But at the same time, you feel comfortable asserting that Maia "decided" to stand with Marquardt for those 21 seconds, as though that was his strategy for the fight. I mean, the fight starts standing. I'd wager Maia spends the first 21 seconds of every fight on his feet. So what? It was Maia's fault that he dropped his hands on a leg kick, sure, but that was a technical error, not some boneheaded strategic gaffe.

I also pretty sincerely doubt that it was his plan to stand with Miller. After all, he took him down more than once and tried for more takedowns than he completed besides. Miller did a good job of defending and getting up off his back (no mean feat). At a certain point it was clear that Maia was having MORE success on the feet than in trying to take it to the ground, so he adjusted his strategy and took a clear-cut decision. I'm not sure what there is to fault here.

"it’s one thing to triangle choke Ed Herman, it’s another to do the same to Chael Sonnen."

Ed Herman: 5 submission losses, 3 by triangle.
Chael Sonnen: 6 submission losses, 3 by triangle.

I don't think it was a big surprise for Maia to have triangled either of these guys. Both were underdogs against him, and it's only since then that Sonnen has come to be regarded as more than a journeyman.

I won't argue that he deserves a title shot. He is the best option if they're going to insist on having an Anderson Silva title defense on the card, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit confused by your comments about Marquardt fight. One the one hand, it was only 21 seconds long. But at the same time, you feel comfortable asserting that Maia &#8220;decided&#8221; to stand with Marquardt for those 21 seconds, as though that was his strategy for the fight. I mean, the fight starts standing. I&#8217;d wager Maia spends the first 21 seconds of every fight on his feet. So what? It was Maia&#8217;s fault that he dropped his hands on a leg kick, sure, but that was a technical error, not some boneheaded strategic gaffe.</p>
<p>I also pretty sincerely doubt that it was his plan to stand with Miller. After all, he took him down more than once and tried for more takedowns than he completed besides. Miller did a good job of defending and getting up off his back (no mean feat). At a certain point it was clear that Maia was having MORE success on the feet than in trying to take it to the ground, so he adjusted his strategy and took a clear-cut decision. I&#8217;m not sure what there is to fault here.</p>
<p>&#8220;it’s one thing to triangle choke Ed Herman, it’s another to do the same to Chael Sonnen.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ed Herman: 5 submission losses, 3 by triangle.<br />
Chael Sonnen: 6 submission losses, 3 by triangle.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it was a big surprise for Maia to have triangled either of these guys. Both were underdogs against him, and it&#8217;s only since then that Sonnen has come to be regarded as more than a journeyman.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t argue that he deserves a title shot. He is the best option if they&#8217;re going to insist on having an Anderson Silva title defense on the card, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Belangia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Belangia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's just another example of there being such a big difference between the top of the weight class and Anderson Silva.  Just when a top guy gets some momentum going and seems to seperate themselves from the rest of the pack, they lose the fight that would get them a title shot as was the case with Marquardt, Okami, and then Maia.  

Maia presents a unique challenge for Silva but I think he gets KO'd in quick fashion just trying to get the fight to the ground.  The main problem is nobody is stepping up from the rest of the pack.  It may well have been Vitor but now we have to wait for that one and they may end up doing Vitor/Sonnen in the meantime which really could be a disasterous matchup for Vitor if he gets taken down.  

I'd hate to see another Leites-esque snooze fest, but I'd wager that Anderson heard enough about that last time to not let it happen again.  Nothing would make me happier than seeing Maia pull guard and triangle choke or armbar Silva just to shake up the division a bit.  Not that I think it will actually happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s just another example of there being such a big difference between the top of the weight class and Anderson Silva.  Just when a top guy gets some momentum going and seems to seperate themselves from the rest of the pack, they lose the fight that would get them a title shot as was the case with Marquardt, Okami, and then Maia.  </p>
<p>Maia presents a unique challenge for Silva but I think he gets KO&#8217;d in quick fashion just trying to get the fight to the ground.  The main problem is nobody is stepping up from the rest of the pack.  It may well have been Vitor but now we have to wait for that one and they may end up doing Vitor/Sonnen in the meantime which really could be a disasterous matchup for Vitor if he gets taken down.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d hate to see another Leites-esque snooze fest, but I&#8217;d wager that Anderson heard enough about that last time to not let it happen again.  Nothing would make me happier than seeing Maia pull guard and triangle choke or armbar Silva just to shake up the division a bit.  Not that I think it will actually happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Hackett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy Hackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree to a point; I think a Maia is as good a challenger as any and Silva wants to fight -- so here we go. It's not a perfect solution to Belfort being injured, but it's the best available.

I certainly agree about it being "one sided and predictible" and yeah, it's a good card that really doesn't need the fight. 

2010 is shaping up weird. If you count boxing in with MMA, does it seem like we're losing more big fights than we are getting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree to a point; I think a Maia is as good a challenger as any and Silva wants to fight &#8212; so here we go. It&#8217;s not a perfect solution to Belfort being injured, but it&#8217;s the best available.</p>
<p>I certainly agree about it being &#8220;one sided and predictible&#8221; and yeah, it&#8217;s a good card that really doesn&#8217;t need the fight. </p>
<p>2010 is shaping up weird. If you count boxing in with MMA, does it seem like we&#8217;re losing more big fights than we are getting?</p>
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