Comments on: UFC’s King Kong: The Age of UFC’s Spectacle Begins http://www.total-mma.com/2009/07/12/ufcs-king-kong-the-age-of-ufcs-spectacle-begins/ Completing the perspective on Mixed Martial Arts Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:32:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Dave Walsh http://www.total-mma.com/2009/07/12/ufcs-king-kong-the-age-of-ufcs-spectacle-begins/#comment-33107 Dave Walsh Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:27:49 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=674#comment-33107 Oh c'mon dude, I've been working the straw man argument for years now, you can't just bust in here like that and think you have some moral victory. Akiyama did what, offensively, on the ground? The fact is, Belcher was doing offensive moves while he was on the bottom and looking for submissions. If anything, it can nullify the fact that Akiayama got him on the ground. Are you going to tell me that fight was 3 round to none with a straight face? Oh c’mon dude, I’ve been working the straw man argument for years now, you can’t just bust in here like that and think you have some moral victory.

Akiyama did what, offensively, on the ground? The fact is, Belcher was doing offensive moves while he was on the bottom and looking for submissions. If anything, it can nullify the fact that Akiayama got him on the ground.

Are you going to tell me that fight was 3 round to none with a straight face?

]]> By: Bo http://www.total-mma.com/2009/07/12/ufcs-king-kong-the-age-of-ufcs-spectacle-begins/#comment-33048 Bo Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:50:12 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=674#comment-33048 Get over yourself. The Belcher-Akiyama fight was close. Stop being stupid and saying Belcher was robbed of victory. Your initial defense of that position is without any merit, blaming stupidity of judging and some mythical bias for Japanese fighters. Zero substance. Then you make a case in the comments where you say Belcher was close to an omoplata... or worse. What, was he about to murder Akiyama or something? The omoplata was never ever close, he never achieved any control of Akiyama's posture, wasn't controlling the hips, Akiyama's weight was on him, he couldn't pull out. The gogoplata wasn't there either as Akiyama was defending properly with wrist control. All evidenced by no submission... or worse... happening. So you and the NSAC have your own individual deficiencies. Get over yourself. The Belcher-Akiyama fight was close. Stop being stupid and saying Belcher was robbed of victory. Your initial defense of that position is without any merit, blaming stupidity of judging and some mythical bias for Japanese fighters. Zero substance.

Then you make a case in the comments where you say Belcher was close to an omoplata… or worse. What, was he about to murder Akiyama or something? The omoplata was never ever close, he never achieved any control of Akiyama’s posture, wasn’t controlling the hips, Akiyama’s weight was on him, he couldn’t pull out. The gogoplata wasn’t there either as Akiyama was defending properly with wrist control. All evidenced by no submission… or worse… happening.

So you and the NSAC have your own individual deficiencies.

]]> By: Harpo http://www.total-mma.com/2009/07/12/ufcs-king-kong-the-age-of-ufcs-spectacle-begins/#comment-33038 Harpo Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:05:39 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=674#comment-33038 Bro, I honestly think comparing "climb on top of my wife" with rape is a bit of a reach. Other than that, everything you said about Brock is the truth and cannot be denied. He is the typical meat head asshole jock who has never been held accountable for his actions or behavior. I always thought Matt Hughes was a complete and total dick head but he never went out of his way to alienate the fans and always did right by the company. Having said that, I really don't think Brock did any long term damage to the company or the sport. I don't know how long he's going to hold the belt for. He's kind of in uncharted waters. A guy with hardly any experience sitting on top of his weight class. We still don't know what his weaknesses are (other than heel hooks). Maybe he'll smash 2-3 more 2nd tier heavyweights and then get subbed by a Gonzaga-type guy. Maybe he'll clean out the division. Who knows? The thing that sets Brock apart from Tito Ortiz is the fact that 99% of the things Tito said and did were schtick whereas Brock is just a legit dip shit. A legit dip shit whose fights I will still order from now until he fails to be entertaining. There's probably a bunch of people who agree with me on that. Bro, I honestly think comparing “climb on top of my wife” with rape is a bit of a reach. Other than that, everything you said about Brock is the truth and cannot be denied. He is the typical meat head asshole jock who has never been held accountable for his actions or behavior. I always thought Matt Hughes was a complete and total dick head but he never went out of his way to alienate the fans and always did right by the company. Having said that, I really don’t think Brock did any long term damage to the company or the sport. I don’t know how long he’s going to hold the belt for. He’s kind of in uncharted waters. A guy with hardly any experience sitting on top of his weight class. We still don’t know what his weaknesses are (other than heel hooks). Maybe he’ll smash 2-3 more 2nd tier heavyweights and then get subbed by a Gonzaga-type guy. Maybe he’ll clean out the division. Who knows? The thing that sets Brock apart from Tito Ortiz is the fact that 99% of the things Tito said and did were schtick whereas Brock is just a legit dip shit. A legit dip shit whose fights I will still order from now until he fails to be entertaining. There’s probably a bunch of people who agree with me on that.

]]> By: Viet http://www.total-mma.com/2009/07/12/ufcs-king-kong-the-age-of-ufcs-spectacle-begins/#comment-33029 Viet Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:36:01 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=674#comment-33029 It comes down to the first round in which Akiyama I thought got the better of the exchanges and was far enough away to weather the knockdown. Akiyama hit him with a bunch of stuff throughout the round. All kinds of combos including his own knockdown off a leg catch and punch and I just didn't think the one moment of offense from Belcher was enough to turn the tide in an otherwise all Akiyama round. It comes down to the first round in which Akiyama I thought got the better of the exchanges and was far enough away to weather the knockdown. Akiyama hit him with a bunch of stuff throughout the round. All kinds of combos including his own knockdown off a leg catch and punch and I just didn’t think the one moment of offense from Belcher was enough to turn the tide in an otherwise all Akiyama round.

]]> By: Dave Walsh http://www.total-mma.com/2009/07/12/ufcs-king-kong-the-age-of-ufcs-spectacle-begins/#comment-33028 Dave Walsh Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:22:37 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=674#comment-33028 Honestly, I feel like R1 was Belcher. While the striking numbers were close, the fact that there was a knockdown should decide that round. They are relying too heavily on Akiyama having top position, too. That means nothing when Belcher was the one working and came close to an omoplata or worse. Honestly, I feel like R1 was Belcher. While the striking numbers were close, the fact that there was a knockdown should decide that round. They are relying too heavily on Akiyama having top position, too. That means nothing when Belcher was the one working and came close to an omoplata or worse.

]]> By: Viet http://www.total-mma.com/2009/07/12/ufcs-king-kong-the-age-of-ufcs-spectacle-begins/#comment-33027 Viet Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:16:59 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=674#comment-33027 Fightmetric who are impartial as they come gave the fight to Akiyama. Their analysis seems spot on with what I thought saw went on in the fight. http://fightmetric.com/fights/Akiyama-Belcher.html Fightmetric who are impartial as they come gave the fight to Akiyama. Their analysis seems spot on with what I thought saw went on in the fight.

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Akiyama-Belcher.html

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