Comments on: Does Lyoto deserve a shot? http://www.total-mma.com/2009/02/01/does-lyoto-deserve-a-shot/ Completing the perspective on Mixed Martial Arts Fri, 18 May 2012 06:24:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: kokushishin http://www.total-mma.com/2009/02/01/does-lyoto-deserve-a-shot/#comment-22860 kokushishin Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:14:06 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=579#comment-22860 Rampage was immediately put in the title scene. BIG WINZ~ in title fights is not a reason to exclude someone from getting a title shot. Obviously if they beat the champion and make defenses they'll have some names on their record. Forrest just got beat by Rashad. What's the rush for a rematch? Rampage was immediately put in the title scene. BIG WINZ~ in title fights is not a reason to exclude someone from getting a title shot. Obviously if they beat the champion and make defenses they’ll have some names on their record.

Forrest just got beat by Rashad. What’s the rush for a rematch?

]]> By: Kelvin Hunt http://www.total-mma.com/2009/02/01/does-lyoto-deserve-a-shot/#comment-22417 Kelvin Hunt Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:46:46 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=579#comment-22417 Dave, While I do think it's fair for fighter to earn some say so in who they fight at certain points. I don't think they can deny Machida any longer. The time has come for him to fight someone top 5. Forrest isn't scheduled to fight anyone, and they need to sign that fight yesterday. Dave,

While I do think it’s fair for fighter to earn some say so in who they fight at certain points. I don’t think they can deny Machida any longer. The time has come for him to fight someone top 5. Forrest isn’t scheduled to fight anyone, and they need to sign that fight yesterday.

]]> By: Dave Walsh http://www.total-mma.com/2009/02/01/does-lyoto-deserve-a-shot/#comment-22409 Dave Walsh Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:49:19 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=579#comment-22409 I think the biggest problem is that Forrest and Rampage have turned down contracts to fight Machida in the past due to them not thinking they could make money off of a Machida fight. That and fear of being beaten in a 'boring' decision. They have enough clout to be able to somewhat pick and choose, which sucks. Just like Chuck cherry-picking to the extreme and finally ending up fighting a very awful Shogun. Extremely transparent. I think the biggest problem is that Forrest and Rampage have turned down contracts to fight Machida in the past due to them not thinking they could make money off of a Machida fight. That and fear of being beaten in a ‘boring’ decision.

They have enough clout to be able to somewhat pick and choose, which sucks. Just like Chuck cherry-picking to the extreme and finally ending up fighting a very awful Shogun. Extremely transparent.

]]> By: Kelvin Hunt http://www.total-mma.com/2009/02/01/does-lyoto-deserve-a-shot/#comment-22390 Kelvin Hunt Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:26:17 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=579#comment-22390 Alan, Wasn't aware that you wrote this. But as you mentioned we are seeing eye to eye. As I mentioned in my piece, Machida needs to take Forrest Griffin out to earn a title shot IMO. Alan,

Wasn’t aware that you wrote this. But as you mentioned we are seeing eye to eye. As I mentioned in my piece, Machida needs to take Forrest Griffin out to earn a title shot IMO.

]]> By: Alan Conceicao http://www.total-mma.com/2009/02/01/does-lyoto-deserve-a-shot/#comment-22352 Alan Conceicao Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:37:58 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=579#comment-22352 I express that he should be given exactly such an opportunity. Let him fight the winner of Rampage/Jardine or Forrest Griffin, then let's return to discuss a title shot. All of those guys needed to beat a then elite fighter to get their crack at a title, why should Lyoto be different? Because Inoki had a hard-on for him? I express that he should be given exactly such an opportunity. Let him fight the winner of Rampage/Jardine or Forrest Griffin, then let’s return to discuss a title shot. All of those guys needed to beat a then elite fighter to get their crack at a title, why should Lyoto be different? Because Inoki had a hard-on for him?

]]> By: gimmedanger http://www.total-mma.com/2009/02/01/does-lyoto-deserve-a-shot/#comment-22349 gimmedanger Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:52:02 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=579#comment-22349 To be fair, Rampage and Forrest "deserve" the title shot because they were given opportunities against elite fighters. The ease with which Lyoto handled Silva and everyone else he's fought suggests that he deserves similar opportunities. To be fair, Rampage and Forrest “deserve” the title shot because they were given opportunities against elite fighters. The ease with which Lyoto handled Silva and everyone else he’s fought suggests that he deserves similar opportunities.

]]> By: Alan Conceicao http://www.total-mma.com/2009/02/01/does-lyoto-deserve-a-shot/#comment-22341 Alan Conceicao Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:10:22 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=579#comment-22341 <i>Evans and Machida came up about the same time and faced the same calibre of opponents in the UFC.</i> Evans actually had a jump of nearly 2 years, over which time he recorded wins against Jardine, Whitehead, Imes, Hoger, Bonnar, Lambert, and Salmon in the UFC either in exhibition contests or full fledged pro bouts. When you look at it like that, Evans was, in a way, 10-0-1 in the UFC before getting a title shot. <i>Evans had the luck and skill to be more marketable and got the spotlight matchup with Chuck Liddell</i> Evans wasn't supposed to win that fight. It wasn't as if they wrapped up Liddell as a gift for the guy. It was intended as a speed bump till Liddell got his rematch at UFC 92. Rashad being more marketable is a straight up joke. The guy was known as a lay-and-pray fighter virtually his entire career. <i>The easy way to figure out if he belongs is to give him the fight and let him make his record like Rashad Evans did.</i> Why? What has he done to deserve it more than Rampage or Forrest? As far as I can tell, the answer is "nothing". Evans and Machida came up about the same time and faced the same calibre of opponents in the UFC.

Evans actually had a jump of nearly 2 years, over which time he recorded wins against Jardine, Whitehead, Imes, Hoger, Bonnar, Lambert, and Salmon in the UFC either in exhibition contests or full fledged pro bouts. When you look at it like that, Evans was, in a way, 10-0-1 in the UFC before getting a title shot.

Evans had the luck and skill to be more marketable and got the spotlight matchup with Chuck Liddell

Evans wasn’t supposed to win that fight. It wasn’t as if they wrapped up Liddell as a gift for the guy. It was intended as a speed bump till Liddell got his rematch at UFC 92. Rashad being more marketable is a straight up joke. The guy was known as a lay-and-pray fighter virtually his entire career.

The easy way to figure out if he belongs is to give him the fight and let him make his record like Rashad Evans did.

Why? What has he done to deserve it more than Rampage or Forrest? As far as I can tell, the answer is “nothing”.

]]> By: Dave Walsh http://www.total-mma.com/2009/02/01/does-lyoto-deserve-a-shot/#comment-22335 Dave Walsh Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:29:49 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=579#comment-22335 Yeah it is pretty lolzy. Alan is mos def. on the Zuffa payroll. On the real, I love Lyoto and while Alan lays out a good argument, I can see no reason to keep him away from title contention. I still think that Rampage deserves his shot and Forrest deserves a rematch. Seriously, I wish UFC would just run a tournament already. Other wise we have no clue what is going on in their heads when it comes to who gets what. At 205 there are a lot of guys that can lay claim to being next in line I think, and that problem is Zuffa's and Zuffa's alone. I understand why Lyoto doesn't get his shot, but he decimated a dude last night, he knows what he has to do to get noticed. I think saving a show will put him in the good graces. Yeah it is pretty lolzy.

Alan is mos def. on the Zuffa payroll.

On the real, I love Lyoto and while Alan lays out a good argument, I can see no reason to keep him away from title contention. I still think that Rampage deserves his shot and Forrest deserves a rematch. Seriously, I wish UFC would just run a tournament already. Other wise we have no clue what is going on in their heads when it comes to who gets what. At 205 there are a lot of guys that can lay claim to being next in line I think, and that problem is Zuffa’s and Zuffa’s alone.

I understand why Lyoto doesn’t get his shot, but he decimated a dude last night, he knows what he has to do to get noticed. I think saving a show will put him in the good graces.

]]> By: Shane Sweeney http://www.total-mma.com/2009/02/01/does-lyoto-deserve-a-shot/#comment-22324 Shane Sweeney Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:13:19 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=579#comment-22324 Yeah dude didn't you know? Alan is our Kevin Iole. Yeah dude didn’t you know? Alan is our Kevin Iole.

]]> By: SnowCrash7 http://www.total-mma.com/2009/02/01/does-lyoto-deserve-a-shot/#comment-22321 SnowCrash7 Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:45:26 +0000 http://www.total-mma.com/?p=579#comment-22321 This is a perfect example of a UFC corporate hack and apologist trying to rationalize the fact that a fighter at 14-0 has not been given a title shot when Brock Lesnar has already been given one and is being given another. Absolute nonsense. Did Dana White write this? This is a perfect example of a UFC corporate hack and apologist trying to rationalize the fact that a fighter at 14-0 has not been given a title shot when Brock Lesnar has already been given one and is being given another.
Absolute nonsense. Did Dana White write this?

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